#17 Dear Flight People [with Chuck Hayward]

#17 Dear Flight People [with Chuck Hayward]

Kyle is out but we have a special guest host: Chuck Hayward! Chuck is a writer on the Netflix series Dear White People and wrote the feature films Fat Camp and Step Sisters. Chuck believes statistically that there must be life on other planets. He also states that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, ergo ghosts exist. This week’s episode is disaster themed! We’re also drinking tequila.

Story 1: Bon Voyage

One unsuspecting couple just jumped out of the frying pan and onto the Hindenburg.
  • How did this story get told? Did the couple survive somehow, or maybe someone on the Hindenburg overheard this story? Chuck thinks the rings melded back together in the wreckage.
  • Chuck doesn’t believe the story, but then remembers the film series Final Destination. So maybe?
  • Tiffany doesn’t buy that the writers would come up with the rings melding together. Chris doesn’t understand why people don’t travel in blimps anymore.

Story 2: The Man In The Model T

Rip Taylor guests stars in Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction as Elmo P. Middleton!
  • Rip Taylor guest stars. He is known for his habit of “showering himself and others in confetti.”
  • Chris loves guardian angel stories and notes this could be the first Beyond Belief story with an openly gay character.
  • The group points out the Northridge earthquake reference, which was just a clever red herring. Tiffany thinks they just didn’t have an earthquake in the production budget.

Story 3: The Scoop

What what you know. Or what you dream I guess?
  • Tiffany wishes she was rewarded by all the power naps she’s taken.
  • The group doesn’t believe the journalist would be able to predict the native name of the island.
  • Chuck thinks no true writer would leave a short story they wrote just lying around in a typewriter in a busy office. You guard that shit.
  • Chris thinks the writers are trying to trick everyone by making it a period piece.

Story 4: Angel on Board

This shit is scary.
  • The group loves this story.
  • Chris wants to believe it so much that he’s going fact, but, at the same time, thinks we would have heard this story if it happened.
  • Chuck loves that there was a black man in first class and a black stewardess warned the woman.

Story 5: Buenos Dias

  • Nobody really likes this story. Probably because there’s a parrot.
  • Tiffany thinks the parrot actually makes it seem more true, because why would the writers put an unnecessary parrot in when the story was already beyond belief at that point?
  • Chuck doesn’t understand why the parrot didn’t just fly away. And why isn’t he dirty?

This episode we play a game called FLIGHT OR FICTION! Tiffany and Jesse listen to one star reviews for airlines and decide which are real and which were made up by Chris and Mark.

The story results are revealed

  • To find out which stories are fact and which are fiction… you must listen to the podcast, or check out the full episode below or on Amazon Prime!

#16 A crow, a raven, and a Brazilian

#16 A crow, a raven, and a Brazilian

“I’m on the fence that those guys blew right through.”

Chris thinks Jesse sounds like Omac from The Legend Of The Hidden Temple. Chris decides to go noteless for this episode. And we have our second themed episode – Animals!

Story 1: The Motorcycle–after a man finds an old motorcycle in a barn, his horse starts acting strange.

Story 2: Blind Man’s Dog—a blind man discovers his seeing eye dog can sense when people will die, but some people don’t see this as a gift.

  • The group points out an awful special effect, looks like a gelatinous ’80s version of the The Matrix’s bullet time effect.
  • Kyle thinks animals have extra mysterious senses. Jesse points out that cats will often lay on older people before they pass away… but realistically likely because the cats are attracted to the heat that dying people people give off.
  • Chris thinks the most unrealistic part of this story is how people always die exactly one hour after the dog howls.
  • Jesse points out the idea of the confirmation bias: how many times did the dog howl and no one died? People tend to remember the hits and forget the misses. 

Story 3: Deer Hunters—when two hunters break into a Native American reservation, they come across a mysterious deer.

  • Chris points out that they use the term Indian and not native American in this episode.
  • Tiffany is conflicted by the presence of the cop. Could it be true then? Jesse thinks that makes it even less believable since a cop is less likely to witness such a unrealistic scenario.
  • Chris isn’t sure if this is fact or fiction: “I’m on the fence that those guys belew right through.”

Story 4: Tribal Curse–A college student studying native tribe, interferes with one of the most sacred funeral rituals.

  • Chris thinks the tribe murdered the student.
  • Chris tries to apply the Ghostly Rules, but nothing adds up. A ghost cannot go into a crow’s body and kill a human.
  • The group points out the amazingly epic crow vs. man chase scene.
  • Jesse and Kyle think the crow wasn’t possessed, but instead simply went crazy and killed the kid.
  • It’s revealed that crows are our bigger listenership.
  • The group points out the unnaturally loud waterfall.

Story 5: The Card Game–a poker cheater is put to the test when the hangman comes to town.

  • No one understands the M. Night Shyamalan twist. Do they just dress up like cowboys on Tuesdays? Kyle thought it would have made more sense if they were on a movie set.
  • Jesse is surprised that this cheater never loses a hand. Tiffany points out that he plays only tourists, so he can continue to cheat without getting caught.
  • Chris tries to use the Ghostly Rules, but this one is just doesn’t make sense.
  • Jesse points out the ghost energy meter would have to be so full in order for a ghost to play a game of poker. Not buying it.

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The story results are revealed.

  • Chris tries desperately to hold onto his 60% average… which he doesn’t. Maybe he should take notes next time? Tiff got 100% percent, however!
  • To find out which stories are fact and which are fiction… you must listen to the podcast, or check out the full episode below, or on Amazon Prime!

#15 Five Guys Burgers & Lies [with Tom Bensinger]

#15 Five Guys Burgers & Lies [with Tom Bensinger]

“I don’t believe any story that contains the phrase ‘boating accident.'”

Tiffany is out, but we have a guest host: Tom Bensinger! Tom talks about his supernatural experiences… none. But he’s heard stories from friends… which he doesn’t trust because he thinks humans are just morons and will believe anything. He is a big fan of ’90s supernatural television and watched Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction back in the day.

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#14 I will not be destroyed by a chair! [with Max La Bella]

#14 I will not be destroyed by a chair! [with Max La Bella]

Kyle is out, but we welcome guest host Max La Bella. Max talks about his new horror film on Netflix, Demonic. He also remembers that his family used to watch Beyond Belief, but he was too afraid to.

Story 1: Kirby–A Hollywood executive meets a mysterious fate after making fun of a life-size animatronic gorilla.

  • The group points out how good the animatronics are. Mark thinks it’s a man in a gorilla suit.
  • If this story actually happened, they would have heard about it. Chris points out that everyone knows about the helicopter accident on the set of Twilight Zone: The Movie. Max thinks maybe the gorilla just tipped over onto the boss.
  • No one knows who witnessed this story. How would people come to this conclusion? Max thinks this could have happened and the story just spiraled out of control.

Story 2: Dust–When two boys help a girl into get into her locked house, they return the next day to discover the house has been abandoned for 20 years.

  • Where was the surprise? There was no attempt to hide that girl was a ghost.
  • No one knows how this story gets told.

Story 3: Malibu Cop–A detective investigating a murder case begins to suffer from vivid nightmares, which leads him to a shocking discovery.

  • Jesse points out that this is very similar to police procedural shows, complete with the kooky lab tech obsessed with his tuna sandwich.
  • Chris points out that he says tuna fish, not tuna. The group debates this, until they realize they are wasting time.
  • Tiffany thinks this story could get around because there are so many witnesses.
  • Max thinks it’s a case of TFTBF—too fiction to be fiction, (not to be confused with TFTBF—too fact to be fact).

Story 4: A Joyful Noise–A church choir running late for rehearsals discovers their tardiness is a blessing in disguise.

  • Everyone loves this story. It’s simple and elegant.
  • If it was divine intervention, Max doesn’t understand why God wouldn’t just turn of the gas valve.
  • Jesse remembers this story on Unsolved Mysteries.
  • The group points out that this a coincidence-based story, so it could have easily happened.
  • Mark points out that it’s the old IIFGIF—if it feels good, it’s fact.

Story 5: The Hooded Chair—An art collector gets more than he bargained for when he receives an antique chair with a dark past.

  • The group points out a great line from this story: “I will not be destroyed by a chair!”
  • Tiffany thinks the whole painting of Napoleon feels writery.
  • Jesse doesn’t understand where the curse originally came from, but “can two people die after sitting in a chair, sure.”
  • The group points out that the plane crash was sourced from an older episode.

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The story results are revealed.

  • To find out which stories are fact and which are fiction… you must listen to the podcast, or check out the full episode below!

#13 Ten thousand Beyond Belief dollars

#13 Ten thousand Beyond Belief dollars

Kyle and the gang agree that this episode was particularly good, though Kyle doesn’t quite know what a creepy noise sounds like, or what jelly sounds like. Jesse admits he doesn’t have a good grasp on the stories this week. Chris asks off air, “Do you guys write down fact or fiction ahead of time?” Kyle doesn’t. Tiffany does. Mark usually writes “fact” for all the stories ahead of time; Jesse usually writes “fiction”.

Story 1: The Mummy—When a Museum displays a rare mummy, a mysterious murder begins to unravel.

  • Kyle points out that the mummy’s body is never recovered, so why didn’t the killer just hide the murder victim where they hid the mummy’s body.
  • Jesse wonders if there’s a certain cost for ghosts to visit us from the afterlife. Why couldn’t the ghost show them where the mummy is?
  • The group realizes that all their knowledge of mummies is from The Mummy starring Brendan Fraser.
  • Chris thinks this must be real because if it were fiction the writers would have written about the actual mummy more.

Story 2: The Perfect Record—A security guard with a perfect record trains a new employee, but some records are meant to be broken.

  • Chris has a great reason for this to be fact: if it was fiction, why didn’t the writers have the security guard use his telekinesis to lock the robbers in the vault?
  • Turns out the only one who believes in telekinesis is Kyle. Chris is somewhere in the middle.
  • Mark thinks the kernel could simply be that there was a power surge, which attracted the police.

Story 3: Grave Sitting—A girl is challenged to spend two hours alone by the grave of a serial killer.

  • Mark cannot remember the name of the serial killer.
  • No one understands why the girl needed to stab the ground.
  • Jesse thinks this is classic urban legend territory. Past “urban legendy” stories are usually fiction.

Story 4: Murder On The Second Floor—Eyewitness testimony at the scene of a murder points to a killer who’s 18 feet tall.

  • Kyle and Chris question the giant’s shoes. Was a large shoe faked to create a footprint, or was it really a giant with his own cobbler?
  • Tiffany doesn’t think this story feels like a classic Before Belief story. There’s no mysterious question, it’s just… “here’s what we think might have happened.”
  • Kyle compares this to Robin’s origin story.
  • Jesse doesn’t know who told this story. Would the cop who had a wild hunch but no real drive to actually solve the crime really tell other people?

Story 5: They Towed My Car—A mysterious outsider wonders a town looking for his car.

  • Jesse reveals this is his favorite title for a Beyond Belief episode to date.
  • The group points out how this is essentially the story about the mummy just in a different… wrapping.
  • Jesse thinks witnesses could have been people in the town lying and wanting to be apart of the story.

The story results are revealed.

  • This is the first mention of author Robert Tralins, which is where many of the “fact” based stories are sourced from.
  • The crew is shocked to discover that Jonathan Frakes references one of the stories being an urban legend….
  • To find out which stories are fact and which are fiction… you must listen to the podcast, or check out the full episode below!

#12 Call me when your horse is psychic [with Melissa Dunham]

#12 Call me when your horse is psychic [with Melissa Dunham]

“If you put a Roomba in the middle of Manhattan, it’s gonna find a dead body eventually.”

Tiffany is out, but we have a special guest host: Melissa Dunham, host of the podcast #Obsessed. Melissa talks about her own paranormal experiences, of which there are many! In college, she was convinced her apartment was haunted, when she heard knocking from inside the closet…

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#10 Castles castles castles

#10 Castles castles castles

 

“Is anyone else turned on by this story?”

In an attempt to be more casual, Chris botches his intro. It’s revealed that this week’s episode of Beyond Belief has a theme – Friday the 13th! However, the stories do a pretty bad job of connecting anything to this theme and actually give up halfway through. Chris tries to get everyone to share their own Friday the 13th story, but no one has one… except Chris, who ate a whole pepperoni pizza to himself on Friday the 13th. Kyle explains the history of Friday the 13th.

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